Control, influence and beyond: the logics of learning networks. The online environments in which learning networks operate today have emerged from a tradition of control and surveillance in which learners have been positioned as dependent on decisions made for them by those 'who know' what they need. The presentation will explore some of the issues and challenges we need to address if we are to complete the transition from technologically mediated environments that control to those that enable a wide variety of learning driven by the desires and purposes of learners.